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2 years ago#1
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I have an old Stevens 30 30 bolt action rifle with a 19in.barrel and want to ramp up the performance a bit.Has anyone out their worked with this cartridge & gun combo before?Gun is in excellent condition with a detachable clip & 4x weaver scope.Have shot it with 150rn.and it is very accurate but i think its range can be extended with some tinkering.I reload so i just need some tips on what to watch out for with this particular gun & cartridge combination.

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1 year ago#2
TexasPatriot
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I have one of the variants of this rifle that I got somewhere that escapes memory. A trade way back when...It is a helluva good deer rifle. It has served me well over the years when I drag it out, dust it off, and slap in a mag full of reloads using a recipe that this rifle really likes. They are tough, accurate rifles that should have never been phased out IMO. They were cheap to make, cheap to shoot, and virtually indestructible. Mine has taken many deer and hogs, even battered the occasional aggressive hog on the head a times and came out with nothing more than some character marks on the wood. Take care of the ol' gal and feed her the right recipe and she will be there til the cows come home. Oh, and buy all the spare parts you can come across while they are still available. I pick mine up on GunBroker, and various other sites...

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1 year ago#3
RIPN 48
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I was the one that wrote the original post and since then i have worked up a nice load for this gun and with a 150gr.boat tail spire point this little 30 30 performs.since my last post i picked up a 219 zipper in this same rifle, spoon handle bolt and all,same thing as the other,i worked up a load with a 45gr.boat tail sp.and this gun out runs my AR15 by a bunch.I'm using a williams peep sight and the most satisfying part is watching my buddy's take out soda cans at 300yds as they never used iron sights much and now they are all scrambling to find these guns for themselves.I now have a 22 hornet,219 zipper,and two 30-30s all stevens butter knife bolt handles and in mint condition.In my neck of the woods you can pick these little darlings up for under $150 all day long,i got the 219 for $115 as it was a custom job that just needed good sights and a butt plate,i picked this stuff up at a gun show for next to nothing and that only adds to my appreciation for these guns. Dennis

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1 year ago#4
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use pointed bullets at 125-150 gr to step it up without making it too hot and shooting out cases quickly. It's a great 150 yard rifle. Beyond that just move on to 308 winchester. Use the right tool for the job.

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1 year ago#5
pahoghunter
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I own 2 of these and i switched to hornady leverloution 160 grain bullets and what a good choice 200yard shots are a breeze now also hornady superloution 160grain work well.

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1 year ago#6
bigb00mer
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as a avid reloader, if you have the box magazine
the loads are off the chart for what that 30-30 can do.
I shoot a lot of contender barrels and my favorite now is a 7x30 waters. Same 30-30 case just neck is blown to add some more powder
Its a wildcat way back but now federal and a cpl others make factory ammo
Winchester use to make a lever action version of the 7x30. shame is never really caught on



RIPN 48 wrote:

I was the one that wrote the original post and since then i have worked up a nice load for this gun and with a 150gr.boat tail spire point this little 30 30 performs.since my last post i picked up a 219 zipper in this same rifle, spoon handle bolt and all,same thing as the other,i worked up a load with a 45gr.boat tail sp.and this gun out runs my AR15 by a bunch.I'm using a williams peep sight and the most satisfying part is watching my buddy's take out soda cans at 300yds as they never used iron sights much and now they are all scrambling to find these guns for themselves.I now have a 22 hornet,219 zipper,and two 30-30s all stevens butter knife bolt handles and in mint condition.In my neck of the woods you can pick these little darlings up for under $150 all day long,i got the 219 for $115 as it was a custom job that just needed good sights and a butt plate,i picked this stuff up at a gun show for next to nothing and that only adds to my appreciation for these guns. Dennis
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12 months ago#7
wild catter
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i reload 30-30 for mr savage 340 in any load i use i always keep the pressure down and the valosity up, powders do not have the same pressure hope this helps good luck.

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12 months ago#8
wild catter
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thanks for writing back .is there a way you could send pictures because i have been trying to get one of these built for some time did they use a blank and chamber it for 219 or use say a 222 barrel and rechamer that if the 222 barrel would fit in the 30-30 reciever that would be easier the twist is the same in 222 and 219. please help thank you very much. wild catter.

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12 months ago#9
dennis taylor
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Wildcater;The 219 i picked up has a box mag and i think the gun was re chambered because it has a factory barrel and i dont think the 219 was a factory offering,i even had to take it to a smith and have 219 zipper engraved on the barrel because barrel had no markings of caliber anywhere on it.Now you want to talk about a shooter,this thing is as good as my AR @ 300 and with a little more load work i think it will do better.

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12 months ago#10
wild catter
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bigboomer; i know the 219 was never offered in the savage i have every caliber they offered and i have a 222 mag i had a 222 re chambered i have two extra 30-30s i want to make a 219 zipper and a 219 donaldson wasp. can you look at the marking on the barrel that has the caliber and see if they went over the originag stamping. if i send you my address could you send me a picture of how it was done that will help me figure out how i have to go thank you very much. jim.

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12 months ago#11
dennis taylor
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Jim;There is no original stamping on the barrel so I'm guessing they converted a 222 into a 219.No evidence of the original caliber stamping being removed so i dont know what the mystery is about that.

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12 months ago#12
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dennis; thank you for the reply that has been helpful, now i know it can be done. how does it feed ? due to the shape of the cases does that cause a problem feeding? i have case forming dies to make my brass for the zipper and the donaldson wasp.now i'll .get busy and find a gunsmith that will do this for me. thank you for chatting and keep it in the 10 ring. jim

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12 months ago#13
dennis taylor
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Jim;I have some feeding issues because of the taper on the 219 brass and the 30-30 dia head but i think a wasp would probably feed a lot better due to the case being blown out with much less taper than the 25-35 style case,good luck with your project.

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12 months ago#14
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dennis; thanks for talking. its like that with the 222 mag in the 223 clip its .9 thousands longer and i can only get ond round in the clip but in varment hunting your lucky if you get the second shot.take care jim.

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12 months ago#15
pahoghunter
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I have switched to hornady leverlutation 160gr and it has really improved my performance i own a savage bolt 30-30 and a revelations 30-30 bolt i use hornady superformance 139 gr with it and man what a difference.I have shot a 700lbs feral hog and dropped it with one shot and every deer i have killed has dropped with one shot.Last year my son shot a deer in maryland he is 12 at 110yards off hand and dropped with 1 shot give them a try.

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12 months ago#16
dennis taylor
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I wanted a little more from my 30-30 in the brush country so i bought a 38-55 and am using a 250gn.flat with 30gn of 3031 and this is the best brush thumper i have ever used.I have a passion for old saddle ring 1894 win.carbines and have one in every cal except 32-40 but I'm still looking for one.All of my Winchesters were made before 1907 and they are all very good shooters and function as smooth as glass.The 30-30 is one of my favorites but the 38-55 is now my go to lever action.

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11 months ago#17
wabigoonlakedave
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I messed with that a few years ago. I used some spitzer boatails but I had to set them very deeply into the case or they would not fit the clip. I was worried about having these shells around because someone could put them in a tube magazine with bad consequences. I got pretty good performance using IMR 3031. It was awhile ago but I think my loads were compressed because of the case size and the further loss of volume caused by deep seating.
If I remember right I was getting performance close to a .308. Might as well just buy a .308.

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11 months ago#18
dennis taylor
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The reason i only load 30 gn of imr 3031 is that my gun was made in 1897 and its not one of the smokeless steel barrels so i dont want to push my luck and blow up a very nice old sr carbine,you never really own these guns you are just taking care of them for a while for the next generation to someday enjoy,i dont want to be responsible for damaging any of these old guns while they are temporarily in my care and possession.

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7 months ago#19
robert
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can u get me one of those 30 30s looking for a model 325a any suggestions

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7 months ago#20
dennis taylor
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I happen to have a Stevens 325 in 30-30 that i have been thinking of selling,it might even have the side scope mount and a 1.5 to 4 old time weaver scope on it,when i get back to Idaho i will get it out and see what it is,i have a collection of these guns in various calibers so its hard to keep track of what i have.I have three 30-30 mags for it i know.I bought it so i could shoot pointed bullets in a 30-30 and its very impressive.

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7 months ago#21
robert laplaunt
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would you be willing to part with one of those? what would be your asking price? i do own one just a standard one and i like it allot ...thanks for the reply Dennis ...robert ...

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7 months ago#22
robert
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you can email me at <email> thanks again dennis ....robert....

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7 months ago#23
dennis taylor
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Let me check and see what i have and i will let you know on this site,I have a 22 hornet,219 zipper and a 30-30 all with the butter knife bolt handles and i think the 30-30 i am considering selling has a ball handle bolt handle so its the odd duck of the bunch so i would like to replace it with a spoon bolt.The 219 is my favorite because it is basically a 25-35 necked down to 224 so its right on the heels of my 22-250 and nearly as accurate,1" and under 5 shot group at 100.30-30 i can cover 5 shot group at 100 with a quarter,22 hornet i can cover with a nickle so like all savage Stevens they are very accurate considering that they are just utilitarian grade guns with so so <email> and i can send you some pics.

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7 months ago#24
robret
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Dennis have you ever disassembled and rebuilt one of those 325a bolt's

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7 months ago#25
robret
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that sound's great ill check them out once again thank's..... robert

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7 months ago#26
dennis taylor
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No i haven't,parts are available from any good gunsmith shop because i had an extractor that was week and Brocks in spoken had the part and installed it for 25 bucks.

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7 months ago#27
robert
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that's my plan dennis thank's

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7 months ago#28
robert
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well i took the bolt apart pretty simple i found that my bolt handle is actually stripped its pressed on with slotted groves and the groves are stripped i think i can remedy it if not ill order another bolt handle

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7 months ago#29
dennis taylor
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Good;it sounds like an easy fix to get it up and running again.

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7 months ago#30
robert
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got the savage put back together it was pretty simple thanks again for the replies dennis they were helpful

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