Bullet Type/Deer

Hello!

I own a 7mm. Remington Mag. and would like some advice. The gun seems to like Federal Premium 160 grain Nosler Partitions. Any reason I should/shouldn't use these? Most shots will 200 yards absolute max. There seems to be quite a few flavors to choose from out there so I'm just looking for some first hand info. I might add I don't reload so I'm interested only in factory loads. The 7mm Mag. is the only rifle I own and have no intention of buying another.(If you could please not turn this into I'd be better with a 308,30-30,06' discussion I'd appreciate it) In a nutshell, what's the best deer load for the 7mm

If the rifle likes Federal 160 grain Partitions, by all means use them. Excellent bullet, you should get good performance on deer and elk if you get a chance to hunt them. In general, use what your rifle likes that's in a reasonable weight and bullet construction for the game you're hunting (don't use varmint bullets on deer, etc).

Scott

The Nosler Partition is a premium bullet...something that isn't required when searching for a suitable7mm Remington deer load. If you were an elk hunter that wanted to use the same bullet on deer, I'd tell you that you made a wise decision.

You can save quite a few dollars per box shooting 150 grain Remington Core-Lokt bullets and the deer will never know the difference.

There is an old saying - 'Watch out for the man who only shoots one rifle, he knows how to use it.' Don't let anyone knock you choice of cartridges

If your gun likes the 160 grain partition that is what counts. That particular load is the load I recommend to any 7mm shooter as a first try. Nosler Partitions have a good reputation as a game bullet and if you gun shoots them accuratly - go for it. If you want to experiment here are a few other factory loads to try. I limited my discussion to premium bullets only.

If you want to try a bullet that is a little tougher, Federal loads the Trophy Bond Bear claw in 160 grains as well. The Bear claw has an excelent reputation as a game bullet anywhere in the world. It is a bonded core bullet with a solid copper shank. Bonded means that the core bonded to the jacket and not merely swaged in place.

If you want to try lighter, Federal also has the 140 grain Partition in your cartridge.

Another bullet that is worth trying and is loaded in Remington's Safari Grade ammo is the 160 grain Swift A-Frame. The A-Frame is a 'BONDED' partition style or H jacket bullet that has an excellent reputation as a game bullet on any content including Africa. The Nosler bullet itsn't bonded and isn't favored by Professional Hunters in Africa.

Also in the Remington line up is the Swift Scriocco in 150 grains. The scriocco is what I shoot in your cartridge's bigger brother the 7mmSTW. I use it on Elk, Deer and Antelope. I have to hand load that one, but you don't. That line is called the Premier Scriocco from Remington. The Scirocco is a bonded style plastic tipped bullet that has a very high Balistic Coeficient which translates into flatter trajectory and better wind bucking characterstics

Ted, I know several professional hunters in Africa who think the Nosler Partition is just dandy. They like other premium bullets as well, but the good old Nosler still holds its own. Good hunting! Michael

If your rifle shoots well with 160 Nosler Partition ammo, I say use it and don't look back. The Nosler partition is a great deer bullet. It gives a great balance of expansion and penetration. For whitetails, you will get more penetration then you need, but so what. You know that that bullet will reach the vitals if your shot placement is correct. As long as you can put that bullet into the boiler room of a deer ( or elk, or moose, etc.) you have a clean kill. Good hunting.

Anyone have any thoughts on the 150 gr. Remington AccuTip Boat Tail or Winchester 150 gr. Supreme Ballistic Silver Tip? I am looking in to buying a rifle myself, focusing on a 7mm, and graphed several rifle/cartridge's ballistic coefficients, trajectories, energy and velocities from the information from the ammo manufacturer's websites. I was very favorably impressed with a 7mm in this size bullet, but also with these particular rounds. I do not know, however, anything about their penetration.

For example, comparing the Nosler to the Remington load...

trajectory

100 150 200 250 300 400 500 7mm Remington 150 gr. AccuTip Boat Tail 1.3 1.2 0 -2.3 -5.9 -17 -34.1 7mm Rem. Magnum 160 gr. Federal Nosler Partition 1.5 0 -6.7 -19.4 -39

energy

50 100 200 250 400 500 7mm Remington 150 gr. AccuTip Boat Tail 3221 2850 2516 2215 1943 1697 7mm Rem. Magnum 160 gr. Federal Nosler Partition 3090 2715 2375 2075 1800 1555

velocity

50 100 200 250 400 500 7mm Remington 150 gr. AccuTip Boat Tail 3110 2926 2749 2579 2415 2258 7mm Rem. Magnum 160 gr. Federal Nosler Partition 2950 2770 2590 2420 2250 2090

Also, the Remington's ballistic coefficient was a pretty impressive .53

I would like to add that though there is no need for another gun, given it will drop whitetails as well as elk, the only suggestion I would make is the difference in your Nosler. You mention your using a Nosler Partician when in Noslers' own words seem to favor the Balistic tip, which is what I shoot in the 7.08 Cal. I suggest the very web-site itself for more expertise. (www.nosler.com). A comment taken from their web-site ver batum is............ 'For long range deer and antelope work, the Ballistic Tip has become THE BULLET.'

J.D. Jones

The Nosler Partition does very well on game. There is no need to switch to any other loading for deer/bear/elk

I don't know anything about the AccuTip, but I would steer clear of the Ballistic Silver Tip. There are many who will disagree with that statement, but that's OK. The BST is basically a Nosler Ballistic Tip coated with Moly. I won't get into the Moly war here but I've been there and have a Moly kit for anyone who wants to buy it!

Like many others have noted above. Pick a bunch of different loads and try them in your rifle till you find one that 'YOUR' rifle likes.

In my earlier post I would try the controled expansion bullets first.

By your subject heading I'd say knock off all those numbers past 250 yards. Then drop down to 140 gr. loads. Sight your rifle to hit 1 1/2' high at 100 yds. It should be right on at 200 and ~7' low at 300. Penetration will probably be all the way through a deer. Bill Van Houten (USA Ret)

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