Again,What gun Recoil:-)

Hey,

I know that there has been quite a few post's on this very same topic but mine in just a little different tho'.

I am looking to buy a new gun before deer season starts and i have made my mind up on what caliber,just not the maker.

My local gun shop has these gun's at a good price and i was wanting to know the recoil of each gun.which one kicks harder plus the pro's n con's of each.

All guns are 30-06'

!.Remington 700 adl syn. w/ bsa 3-9x50 w/ rings & base,,,$439.95

2.Remington 700 adl syn. w/simmons 3-9-x50,,no rings & base,,,$439.95

3.Weatherby Vanguard syn, w/ Tasco 3-9x50 rings,base,sling and hard case,,, $479.95

4.Howa w/3-9x42,,,$389.95

5.Remington 710 package $ 349.95

6.Remington 700 adl syn w/Tasco 3-9x42 rings,base,sling and hard case,,,$479.95

7.Ruger M77 w/rings,,,$459.95

8.Remington 7400,,,$389.95

Thanks for your help

I'd go Howa, I think it's the best deal.

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All of these are decent firearms. But remember, lot of the felt recoil is going to be dependant on several things.

First of all, a semi-auto is going to have less felt recoil, over a bolt action or pump due to the fact that some of the recoil energy is utilized to cycle the rifle's action.

Secondly, what's the weight of each firearm? A lighter rifle will recoil harder.

Third, which rifle fits you best? A firearm that fits the shooter will have a less objectionable recoil.

Are any of these rifles muzzlebraked? A muzzlebrake will reduce felt recoil.

What is your tolerance for recoil? I've shot friend's rifles that I thought kicked like a Missouri Mule, yet they seemed to think that there was nothing there.

My advice to you is find the rifle that YOU like best and see if there's any opportunity for you to shoot it at a rifle range. That should tell you a lot. If that isn't possible, then I'd say buy whatever you like and learn to shoot it. There are several things that can be done to reduce the amount of felt/perceived recoil. Replace the recoil pad with a premium recoil pad, shoot reduced velocity and/or lighter weight bullet loads. Or, get a muzzle brake installed and get good ear protection when you're on the range.

There is little doubt that a muzzle break will reduce the recoil of a rifle. However, real and perceived recoil can be two different things.

I learned long ago that for me muzzle blast has much more to do with perceived recoil than the physical forces. Because the muzzle brake directs gases up as well as forward the shooter will receive more of that blast. In my case that means more perceived recoil and removes brakes from consideration.

Willie, the lightest gun will kick the most, though different stock shapes and the presence or absence of a good recoil pad can minimize or accentuate perceived recoil for different shooters. Use 150 grain ammunition and wear a PAST Shield at the range if recoil is a concern. I don't care for the cheap rubbery injection molded plastic stocks Remington is using these days, I've seen a 7400 explode, and I wouldn't pay money for a Tasco, Simmons, or BSA scope, so about the only rifle on your list that I'd feel good recommending is the Howa (though you don't mention what brand of glass it wears), if it has a wood stock. Pleasantly enough, it appears to be your second least expensive choice. I've never known anyone who owned a Howa who didn't like his. To be thorough though you ought to swing by Walmart and see what they're asking for their Savage 110 package before you buy... Good hunting! Michael

The one that is the heaviest will generate the least recoil. An autoloader will spread the recoil across a longer period and be felt less sharply.

The rest will depend more on stock design and your personal anatomy so will vary from individual to individual. To me my wife's .308 is the hardest kicking rifle in the cabinet while she finds my 30-06 much

Thank's for the help,

Muzzle blast does not bother me as much as it does some people.My brother has a Savage 110 in 308' and it kicks like a mule,but my dad's 06' in the Remington 700 don't really kick that hard to me.

I know there has been alot wrote about the waight of the gun,heavy gun kicks less,light gun kicks more. but i got to disagree on that one just a little.my dad's gun is lighter than my brother's.and my brother's gun damn near knocked my arm off last time i shot it.but thats a 308 and im not looking for one of them

Guess i'm gonna go with either the Howa or the Remington 700.

The fit of the gun will be more important than the weight. I wouldnt worry about a pound if the gun is ill fitting. It'll kick the heck out of you. If you have to ride your cheek up on the gun to get a clear veiw in the scope for example, it may dot your eye. I went to a Bass pro super center, and held about a dozen rifles. After all was said and done, the one (bolt) that fit me overall the best was a base model walnut ruger. I really wanted a winchester, but it just didnt feel right. oh well, thats my 3rd ruger. I dont believe that 'you'll get used to it' stuff either. First impressions for me. If it feels awkward, youll shoot it awkward. Del

The .308 Winchester is about as light kicking as you can find in a centerfire hunting cartridge. If you are having problems with the recoil from it, you need to go back to square one to determine what you are doing wrong when you mount the weapon.

Buzz, The 308 Winchester is not a heavy kicker by any means, but there are a good many big game cartridges that can be expected to deliver even less recoil in rifles of the same weight. That said a well fitted gun, a proper recoil pad, and good technique can make a big difference in shooter comfort and confidence. Good hunting! Michael

All depends, doesn't it? My wife's lightweight Ruger carbine in .308 doesn't seem to have any more kick than a .22. The bigbear Savage 99c (in .308) that I've used most of my life will leave a bruise on my shoulder after 5-6 rounds if I don't wear a jacket to practice in. I've made a lot of meat with that gun, and I don't recall recoil ever being a consideration when I was taking a shot that mattered. After 35 or so years, it comes to my shoulder and all comes together about as easy as a forkful of steak comes to my mouth. Of course, I've never had an elk walk in front of a bench rest yet. Or had to reload.